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Becoming Self Made
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Becoming Self Made isn’t for dreamers—it’s for doers.

Hosted by bestselling author and money expert Mike Michalowicz, the podcast dives into the unfiltered stories of founders and entrepreneurs who built their businesses from the ground up and kept pushing as the stakes got higher.

Each episode goes beyond the highlight reel to reveal the raw moments, hard-won lessons, and personal transformations that come with scaling something real—equal parts gritty, insightful, and funny.

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Falling in Love With the Problem: How Lauren Makler Built Cofertility
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Ep. 6December 16, 2025

Lauren Makler, co-founder and CEO of Cofertility, joins Mike Michalowicz to share how a life-altering medical diagnosis became the catalyst for building a more human, accessible fertility system with Cofertility. Lauren explains how falling in love with the problem, not just the solution, led her to reimagine egg freezing and donation in a way that removes financial barriers for individuals and couples while preserving dignity and choice.

Along the way, Lauren opens up about trusting gut instinct as accumulated wisdom, navigating leadership through deeply emotional work, and building a mission-driven company that balances empathy, optimism, and scale.

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Mike Michalowicz
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Mike Michalowicz is one of today’s most prolific business authors. His bestselling books Profit First, Clockwork, and The Pumpkin Plan have given entrepreneurs a blueprint for building stronger small businesses. Mike has founded four multi-million dollar companies and is known for turning struggling businesses into thriving ventures. He is a sought-after speaker, inspiring audiences around the world, and can be seen hosting a new streaming TV show, 4 Minute Money Maker.

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